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		<title>By: Active Per Click PPC</title>
		<link>http://blog.stuffedguys.com/2005/10/06/ppc-frustration/comment-page-1/#comment-16369</link>
		<dc:creator>Active Per Click PPC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 11:22:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have you used PPC WEB SPY? It is a great tool that lets you see the adwords being used by any company that appear.
We found it a great marketing tool to find niche keywords with low cost but searched for keywords.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you used PPC WEB SPY? It is a great tool that lets you see the adwords being used by any company that appear.<br />
We found it a great marketing tool to find niche keywords with low cost but searched for keywords.</p>
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		<title>By: Sergey Smirnov</title>
		<link>http://blog.stuffedguys.com/2005/10/06/ppc-frustration/comment-page-1/#comment-1006</link>
		<dc:creator>Sergey Smirnov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Oct 2005 22:32:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am happy to report that my new split testing URLs were now accepted by Overture. 

But at first they&#039;ve got rejected again. I was persistent this time. I&#039;ve changed the secure split testing URLs to non-secure identical ones and, what do you know, this time they were accepted.

So 2 conclusions:

1. Stuffed Tracker split testing URLs work in Overute (yay!).

2. As I understand the problem was very specific to the SSL certificate that we use on our own secure site. It is not pre-installed in Internet Explorer prior to version 5.5. 

In our own Stuffed Tracker I can see the test click that someone from Overture editorial staff has made (or this could have been a robot as well) and they use a browser that identifies itself as: 

Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.01; Windows NT 5.0) RPT-HTTPClient/0.3-3E 

This looks more like a robot. 

So again, problem solved. Or rather there was no problem in the first place. Sorry for misleading information.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am happy to report that my new split testing URLs were now accepted by Overture. </p>
<p>But at first they&#8217;ve got rejected again. I was persistent this time. I&#8217;ve changed the secure split testing URLs to non-secure identical ones and, what do you know, this time they were accepted.</p>
<p>So 2 conclusions:</p>
<p>1. Stuffed Tracker split testing URLs work in Overute (yay!).</p>
<p>2. As I understand the problem was very specific to the SSL certificate that we use on our own secure site. It is not pre-installed in Internet Explorer prior to version 5.5. </p>
<p>In our own Stuffed Tracker I can see the test click that someone from Overture editorial staff has made (or this could have been a robot as well) and they use a browser that identifies itself as: </p>
<p>Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.01; Windows NT 5.0) RPT-HTTPClient/0.3-3E </p>
<p>This looks more like a robot. </p>
<p>So again, problem solved. Or rather there was no problem in the first place. Sorry for misleading information.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack</title>
		<link>http://blog.stuffedguys.com/2005/10/06/ppc-frustration/comment-page-1/#comment-1005</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Oct 2005 19:51:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cool.  Looking forward to giving your software a run through... just found you today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cool.  Looking forward to giving your software a run through&#8230; just found you today.</p>
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		<title>By: Sergey Smirnov</title>
		<link>http://blog.stuffedguys.com/2005/10/06/ppc-frustration/comment-page-1/#comment-1004</link>
		<dc:creator>Sergey Smirnov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Oct 2005 19:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jack,

Thanks for the suggestion. Stuffed Tracker already uses the standard &quot;Location:&quot; method when it performs split tests. And include the page idea seems to be incovenient, since then the page will be served with the tracker&#039;s URL in the browser&#039;s location field, which is misleading for the visitor and probably is not what you want anyway.

To be honest, this blog entry was written in frustration because of the different limitations that I&#039;ve encountered when starting to advertise via PPC. I&#039;ve never really studied the real reasons why Overture declined my listings with a split testing URL. I just thought that the problem might appear because of a redirect used in the split test.

Now, that you&#039;ve showed your concern about this as our potential customer I will get to the bottom of this. I am currently waiting for Overture editorial team to review my new target URLs again pointing to a split test. 

I&#039;ll post here what I will find out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jack,</p>
<p>Thanks for the suggestion. Stuffed Tracker already uses the standard &#8220;Location:&#8221; method when it performs split tests. And include the page idea seems to be incovenient, since then the page will be served with the tracker&#8217;s URL in the browser&#8217;s location field, which is misleading for the visitor and probably is not what you want anyway.</p>
<p>To be honest, this blog entry was written in frustration because of the different limitations that I&#8217;ve encountered when starting to advertise via PPC. I&#8217;ve never really studied the real reasons why Overture declined my listings with a split testing URL. I just thought that the problem might appear because of a redirect used in the split test.</p>
<p>Now, that you&#8217;ve showed your concern about this as our potential customer I will get to the bottom of this. I am currently waiting for Overture editorial team to review my new target URLs again pointing to a split test. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ll post here what I will find out.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack</title>
		<link>http://blog.stuffedguys.com/2005/10/06/ppc-frustration/comment-page-1/#comment-1003</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Oct 2005 19:25:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here are two suggestions, although I wouldn&#039;t be surprised if you looked at them already:

header(&#039;Location: pageA.htm&#039;);

or

include &#039;pageA.htm&#039;;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here are two suggestions, although I wouldn&#8217;t be surprised if you looked at them already:</p>
<p>header(&#8216;Location: pageA.htm&#8217;);</p>
<p>or</p>
<p>include &#8216;pageA.htm&#8217;;</p>
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		<title>By: Sergey Smirnov</title>
		<link>http://blog.stuffedguys.com/2005/10/06/ppc-frustration/comment-page-1/#comment-1002</link>
		<dc:creator>Sergey Smirnov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Oct 2005 15:55:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jack,

This is not Stuffed Tracker specific. Overture just don&#039;t seem to like a redirect target URL. Any other split testing software should have the same problem with them.

We are currently investigating any possible solutions to this problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jack,</p>
<p>This is not Stuffed Tracker specific. Overture just don&#8217;t seem to like a redirect target URL. Any other split testing software should have the same problem with them.</p>
<p>We are currently investigating any possible solutions to this problem.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack</title>
		<link>http://blog.stuffedguys.com/2005/10/06/ppc-frustration/comment-page-1/#comment-1001</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Oct 2005 15:30:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m interested in purchasing your excellent looking product.  I am particularly enthusiastic about the split tracking capbilities.  I was heartbroken to read that split tests with your product may not work with Overture.  Is there a workaround?  Or should I just know that split tests with Stuffed Tracker can&#039;t be done with some PPC sites?

Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m interested in purchasing your excellent looking product.  I am particularly enthusiastic about the split tracking capbilities.  I was heartbroken to read that split tests with your product may not work with Overture.  Is there a workaround?  Or should I just know that split tests with Stuffed Tracker can&#8217;t be done with some PPC sites?</p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Sergey Smirnov</title>
		<link>http://blog.stuffedguys.com/2005/10/06/ppc-frustration/comment-page-1/#comment-742</link>
		<dc:creator>Sergey Smirnov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Oct 2005 07:09:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris, 

Sorry, I really don&#039;t know how this will influence your page rank. I recommend asking about this at www.webmasterworld.com forums. You can find some real experts there, including Google&#039;s employees.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris, </p>
<p>Sorry, I really don&#8217;t know how this will influence your page rank. I recommend asking about this at <a href="http://www.webmasterworld.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.webmasterworld.com</a> forums. You can find some real experts there, including Google&#8217;s employees.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://blog.stuffedguys.com/2005/10/06/ppc-frustration/comment-page-1/#comment-741</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Oct 2005 06:44:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Sergey.
This was a very curious information I will have in mind. I hope that Google won&#039;t stop accepting the split tests procedure. 
And talking about Google can you tell me whether if I use on some website URL www.my-domain-name.com/?s=1 (for split test) or (?c=1 for campaign) will this contribute to my Google PR or it will not add any points as it doesn&#039;t link especially to the domain.
Thank you for your great blog!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Sergey.<br />
This was a very curious information I will have in mind. I hope that Google won&#8217;t stop accepting the split tests procedure.<br />
And talking about Google can you tell me whether if I use on some website URL <a href="http://www.my-domain-name.com/?s=1" rel="nofollow">http://www.my-domain-name.com/?s=1</a> (for split test) or (?c=1 for campaign) will this contribute to my Google PR or it will not add any points as it doesn&#8217;t link especially to the domain.<br />
Thank you for your great blog!</p>
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